So why is that my problem, as a tax payer? My grand dad started his business with his own sweat equity and did not have the assistance of the ALL KNOWING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. The risk is and was his own and was very successful.

 

Republicans want small government?

Nope that's just the lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation. Who came up with drug testing? Who came up with women having to undergo vaginal ultra sounds before having an abortion? Who created the largest prison population in the world? Who started two wars and didn't even put the cost of those wars on the budget.

Those are all the lies of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation.

 

You're the one who said small businesses could get loans from banks I just proved they couldn't and the creation of the SBA was to help solve that problem.

And by the way that was in the 1950's under Eisenhower.

Oh wait I bet President Eisenhower was a RINO as well.

 

Bullshit, people CAN AND COULD get loans from banks if they had a good capital, contracts and counseling, an 18 year old kid that has no idea how to work efficiently, has a chance of getting any financing for a small business from any bank without it.


The SBA should be eliminated and the funding to be placed towards the national debt. There is enough money floating around from private investors to invest in small businesses.

 

I think you live in your own little dream world Ace. Its the cooperation between business and government that made this the greatest nation on earth or at least certainly the most powerful.

But now your buddies in the 1% just like Mitt Romney invest their money and do their banking in foreign countries while they milk this one dry.

And don't forget the original purpose of the US Constitutions was to facilitate and regulate commerce. That's how far out in right field you really are.

 

Ace, you are a silly nitwit. you are too stupid to get into the ring with stumbler. Stop embarrassing those who share your prejudices.

 

Let's not forget the billions that the GOP gives the military-industrial complex during war time, peace time, anytime. The US spends over 40% of all military spending on the planet - 4.7% of our GDP, over $700 Billion for 2012. The cost of Obama's stimulus plan? $800 billion OVER 10 YEARS!

 

Some place around here I've got a photo of US contractors in Iraq playing catch football with stacks of money about that size $10,000 per bundle. The largest withdrawal in the history of the US Treasury was (literally) pallets stacked with $10,000 packs of cash that had to be shipped in largest cargo plane in our military.

No one knows or even cares what happened to all that money in Iraq.

But you make such an excellent point about the actual costs we're looking at here.

For all their talk about the cost of entitlements bailing out the private sector financial industry after they collapsed the economy with their greed and corruption was at least $13 TRILLION.

 

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Ok let's take a look at some of the liars of conservatism that claim debt is unacceptable and everyone including the government should live within it means.

Presidential also-rans stiff small businesses

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Romney: I've paid 'very substantial' taxes every year ... 'so far as I can recall'

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Hey I really liked that one.:excited:

 

Oops! Romney Israel Fundraiser Canceled due to Conflict with Holiday

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And the people who are dumber than those alluded to in that pic are Republican voters who vote for Republican candidates who will pass laws to make offshoring jobs easier. Who want to eradicate medicare, medicaid and Social Security and want to deny health care for 50 million Americans. It seems like you right wingers just like getting screwed up the ass relentlessly because you keep voting the same idiotic Republicans time after time. It's fine to be all for your Team but let me tell you, your team sucks.

 

And what really gets me is that its the conservatives that are supposed to be so good at math.

But when we consider that for the past 30+ years while American workers have increased production, and worked more hours for less money, and their wages have stayed stagnant or even decreased the wages and wealth for the top 1% has increased 275%.

Now just how fucking stupid do you have to be to not see what's happening here?

 

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Let me once again take this opportunity to show what a brainwashed parrot you really are.

How much did the national debt increase under George W Bush?

Can't answer that can you parrot. Because George Bush DOUBLED the national debt and sold our economic asses to the Chinese to pay for the wars he started and save Halliburton's ass.

You are a much bigger joke than the wanna be AZRIEL pictures you post.

 

You really are stupid stumbler..... Obama has spent more in 3 1/2 years than Bush did in 8 years.


National Debt has increased more under Obama than under Bush

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By Mark Knoller Topics Campaign 2012

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(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.

The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, the total value of goods and services.

Mr. Obama has been quick to blame his predecessor for the soaring Debt, saying Mr. Bush paid for two wars and a Medicare prescription drug program with borrowed funds.

The federal budget sent to Congress last month by Mr. Obama, projects the National Debt will continue to rise as far as the eye can see. The budget shows the Debt hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012, $17.5 trillion in 2013 and $25.9 trillion in 2022.

Federal budget records show the National Debt once topped 121% of GDP at the end of World War II. The Debt that year, 1946, was, by today's standards, a mere $270 billion dollars.

Mr. Obama doesn't mention the National Debt much, though he does want to be seen trying to reduce the annual budget deficit, though it's topped a trillion dollars for four years now.

As part of his "Win the Future" program, Mr. Obama called for "taking responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending wherever we find it."

His latest budget projects a $1.3 trillion deficit this year declining to $901 billion in 2012, and then annual deficits in the range of $500 billion to $700 billion in the 10 years to come.

If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.

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