How do you shoot a man who is sitting on top of you, in the chest, with a handgun, and not be covered with HIS blood? What am I missing here?

 

Wasn't it the police that first reported the injuries to Mr Zimmerman?

 

You guys are great at examining documents and video yet somehow you were fooled by the faked birth certificate.

 

It has not been reported what position either party was in when shots were fired
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You're not missing anything. You're hitting a much neglected and previously unentered observation. Because you don't. Another thing Zimmerman's defenders fail to explain is why physics and gravity apparently failed in this single instance.

And where is all that evidence or lack of same? It walked out the door with George Zimmerman.

 

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No clothing, no DNA, no gun, no photos of the crime scene...dubious interviews with witnesses...the Sanford PD has a lot to answer for, particularly if the evidence contradicts what they previously said, which looks more and more like a bogus cover story.

 

Their is no doubt that they problably fumbled the investigation, these little hick towns always do. They do not have the experience or resources nor training to do this things. take the Virginia Tech shootings 4 years ago they fucked that up worse then a soup sandwich. We are not talking Miami, LA , New York detectives here folks.

 

The people involved in this case are not in question. Why would the police need to collect DNA?

The gun in this case is not in question. Why would they need to keep it? If they do need it, a court order could be issued and the weapon seized for evidence.

The police have not and will not release all the photographs from an on going investigation. So we really don't know how many photos they have.

 

Then they should have brought in some qualified homicide investigators. They're part of a major metropolitan area...resources are close at hand. But it appears from the outset that they were predisposed NOT to view it as a homicide, even though the lead investigator on the scene apparently recommended that Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter.

But in any event, this isn't Mayberry. It's a city of 53,000 people. It's not to much to expect that the PD would act in a professional manner. This isn't the only homicide they've ever had to deal with.

 

Oh really? Why, then, have they been selectively leaking information ever since the story broke?

The reason they need DNA is the same reason they should have retained the gun, taken photos, and otherwise conducted a thorough investigation: to determine what happened, as opposed to what George Zimmerman SAID happened. That, unfortunately, has been compromised.

 

Well, if they want Mr Zimmerman's DNA or anyone's DNA the law varies from state to state. But in all states and even on the federal level, one must either be charged with a felony crime or a court can issue an order and make an individual submit a DNA sample.

Otherwise they can't do it.

 

What's your point? Express it in your own words.

 

In your words, DL, I demonstrated that blacks behave and perform as well as whites, and have made comparable contributions to world civilization.

 

Some do. Some have. Nevertheless, racial differences are palpable in terms of average ability levels and behavior.

 

if that kid that got shot was white it would get this much attention
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I doubt it very seriously. White are murdered by blacks all the time. When was the last time it was national news?

 

Black Teens set kid on fire for being 'white boy'

New York Daily News March 04, 2012

A 13-year-old boy who police say was doused with gasoline and lit on fire last week while walking home from school is recovering from first-degree burns to his face and head.

The boy was just two blocks from his home in Kansas City Tuesday when two teenagers began to follow him and then attacked him, his mother, Melissa Coon, said.

Police have described the suspects as black 16-year-olds, while the victim is white.

"We were told it's a hate crime," Coon told KTLA.
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Where is the outrage over this?

 

Then why have the police not released pictures of these injuries, they are quick enough to leak stuff that showed has the victim, now we have a video of Zimmerman 30 minutes after the event showing no evidence of head or nose trauma, no grass stains or damp patched on his back.

No we have no evidence of police lies, but the straws holding Zimmerman's defence together are slowly falling away.

 

EXACTLY MY POINT.....EXACTLY
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