This is the way. Having an external box you can shoot dead and replace when it becomes a threat to your privacy is much easier than tossing your whole TV in the bin.The idea that you would need to update a TV is still bizarre to me. Just... use it as a display and don't connect it to the internet at all?
Personally I'd pay MORE for just a dumb TV...
Manufacturers will never go back to dumb tv's even if you'd pay them twice as much. The ad business brings in much, much more revenue then purchasing a TV once.Really? You're just going to post that out there for all the manufacturers to read? That's the quiet part you're not supposed to publish!
Not just stuff in ads! That's 7 years of gradually adding poorly coded components so by the end of the 3 year warranty period your TV feels bloated, laggy, and spontaneously reboots more and more frequently, so then you obviously need to buy a new one! What a wonderful time we live in! /s7 years of updates means 7 years of finding new ways to stuff ads into everything. Is there anyone committing to 0 years of updates? That's the TV I want to buy!
Same. But TV manufacturers likely earn a nice chunk from advertisements and other third party deals that originate from their smart TV platforms. And they'd likely want many times what that amount is since the omission would be seen as a premium feature by the MBAs. The electricity savings would likely be negligible. So it is just easier to keep them off the network and ignore the functionality instead.Does it matter if say Netflix or the streaming apps on there just quit supporting it?
For a lot of people it's the apps quitting on them that matters.
Personally I'd pay MORE for just a dumb TV...
They "sometimes" use it to upload better color processing algorithms, and there's been updates that improved color accuracy and black levels too. (Or vice versa sometimes)The idea that you would need to update a TV is still bizarre to me. Just... use it as a display and don't connect it to the internet at all?
Corr: The advertising-related businesses bring in more in PROFIT than selling the TV does.Manufacturers will never go back to dumb tv's even if you'd pay them twice as much. The ad business brings in much, much more revenue then purchasing a TV once.
I knew I couldn't be the first to think "there is nothing good coming of this." You're never gonna get a new HDMI version, or a higher refresh rate, or new color profile support and decoding.7 years of updates means 7 years of finding new ways to stuff ads into everything. Is there anyone committing to 0 years of updates? That's the TV I want to buy!
Agreed. Sometimes real things people want fixed are fixed via firmware.They "sometimes" use it to upload better color processing algorithms, and there's been updates that improved color accuracy and black levels too. (Or vice versa sometimes)
There's also been a bunch of high profile firmware fixes for various things like VRR, HDR, or brightness bugs....
Just update the TV and then disconnect it from wifi to not have the ads and data connections...
TVs aren't just dumb appliances like before, there's a lot of software in them that makes them work now...
Occasionally things can be made worse as well though. It's a double edged sword.Agreed. Sometimes real things people want fixed are fixed via firmware.
But I suspect that far less than seven years out, that's no longer what's being downloaded, even if it ever was.
However, of all the "smart" TVs out there, Samsung seems to be the least scammy. I'm open to new info, though.
Personally I'd pay MORE for just a dumb TV...
I miss the TVs in a wooden box with the knob that went “klunk, klunk” when you changed one of the 6 channels. Good times….I have a TV in our house that’s 15 years old. Growing up we owned a TV for more than 20 years. This whole idea of connected TVs that will eventually lose support can just DIAF. Dumb screens, smart boxes all the way.
rm -rf /
of its operating system, then rebooted into a hidden firmware mode equivalent to a dumb TV of old, with no network connection.The first Apple TV came out in 2007 (before the first iPhone).Apple has provided updates for its first Apple TV since 2015
And you didn't have to pay for any of the six channels -- or if you opted to pay for channels, you wouldn't have to see commercials...I miss the TVs in a wooden box with the knob that went “klunk, klunk” when you changed one of the 6 channels. Good times….
Really? You're just going to post that out there for all the manufacturers to read? That's the quiet part you're not supposed to publish!
I have a 2018 Sony Bravia and a 2019 Samsung "the Frame." I don't see many--if any--hits on my PiHole for the Sony, but the Samsung---perhaps because it's a device designed to be always-on---has over 9,000 hits blocked in the last 24 hours. For context, my whole network for my heavily-online family has only 18,000 hits blocked in the past 24 hours.This is the way. Having an external box you can shoot dead and replace when it becomes a threat to your privacy is much easier than tossing your whole TV in the bin.
However, of all the "smart" TVs out there, Samsung seems to be the least scammy. I'm open to new info, though.
Eventually, we'll have to pay extra to not get the extra circuitry and "features". Perhaps we already are with "digital signage displays". See also region free DVD and BR players. IIRC, synths also used to have chips that would prevent you from exporting digitally, and you had to pay extra to get machines without them.Really? You're just going to post that out there for all the manufacturers to read? That's the quiet part you're not supposed to publish!
This truly saddens me and says everything about what's wrong with the human race.The ad business brings in much, much more revenue then purchasing a TV once.